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Wish I didn't have relapses; relapse
Topic Started: Dec 19 2016, 04:40 PM (1,106 Views)
miker0351
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seth8a
Dec 19 2016, 10:26 PM
miker0351
Dec 19 2016, 10:04 PM
Hey Seth, you've been getting some great feedback from a bunch of people and all that they're saying is spot on. I once heard a saying that's stuck with me, "wish in one hand, crap in the other and see which one fills up first". The plain and simple answer is to just stop using the stuff. That's the great thing about this site and the method here that's proven effective for so many people. You only need to quit for one day at a time (odaat) and keep quitting every damn day (edd). No one in here us committed to forever, we just keep quitting each day. Time to stop wishing brother and start committing just for one day
I promised my wife I'd stop. My daughters are the most beautiful things in the world to me and I promised to them I'd stop. The worst thing is the lying--to myself and to others. I "just" dipped for three weeks and a couple of tins, but it's like I never quit. It was about as pathetic as you can get--reading books to them with a chew in my mouth while hiccuping because I was trying to hide it.
I feel you man. We've all had that pathetic feeling of powerlessness and submission to the damn stuff. Just take control for one day. Start today because it'll never be back, the do it again tomorrow and so on
No war is over until the enemy says it’s over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote. - Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis (Ret.)
I didn't come this far to only come this far. I came this far to build the strength to keep going.
In this life all I have is my word and my balls and I do not break them for nobody - Al Capone
You wish, I'll work...
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do - Benjamin Franklin
Success happens when you hold on after others let go
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Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
Every day of quit is a victory.
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tabrow3
Dec 19 2016, 10:35 PM
Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
Thanks man. The habit started probably same as a lot of other folks, too--I worked in forestry and hell, guys would go through a can of Cope a day on my crew and think nothing of it. It was part of the culture. I work in about a white collar job as possible these days, but still can't get passed the old habit of using. I've got to break the cycle. I also have battled anxiety for a lot of my life, and I wonder how many people can related to that, too. I always thought it calmed me down, but I was always wrong about that.
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tabrow3
Dec 19 2016, 10:35 PM
Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
The most important thing you can do is quit for yourself, first and foremost! Everyone around you will benefit. Got alot of good support already my friend. As long as your names on roll your never alone! Damn proud to be quit with you
ROLL TIDE ROLL! God, Family and crappie fishing! I will always be an addict, but hopefully never a slave again!
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seth8a
Dec 19 2016, 10:46 PM
tabrow3
Dec 19 2016, 10:35 PM
Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
Thanks man. The habit started probably same as a lot of other folks, too--I worked in forestry and hell, guys would go through a can of Cope a day on my crew and think nothing of it. It was part of the culture. I work in about a white collar job as possible these days, but still can't get passed the old habit of using. I've got to break the cycle. I also have battled anxiety for a lot of my life, and I wonder how many people can related to that, too. I always thought it calmed me down, but I was always wrong about that.
There's a whole section on the site for people dealing with depression/anxiety/etc. and a bunch of people in the quit groups who have the exact same concerns. There are 28,000+ people who use/have used the site and over 4 million posts. I believe that anything you could feel has been felt by someone here.
No war is over until the enemy says it’s over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote. - Gen. James "Mad Dog" Mattis (Ret.)
I didn't come this far to only come this far. I came this far to build the strength to keep going.
In this life all I have is my word and my balls and I do not break them for nobody - Al Capone
You wish, I'll work...
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do - Benjamin Franklin
Success happens when you hold on after others let go
My Introduction and HOF Speech and Board Use Rules
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Jeff W
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miker0351
Dec 19 2016, 10:51 PM
seth8a
Dec 19 2016, 10:46 PM
tabrow3
Dec 19 2016, 10:35 PM
Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
Thanks man. The habit started probably same as a lot of other folks, too--I worked in forestry and hell, guys would go through a can of Cope a day on my crew and think nothing of it. It was part of the culture. I work in about a white collar job as possible these days, but still can't get passed the old habit of using. I've got to break the cycle. I also have battled anxiety for a lot of my life, and I wonder how many people can related to that, too. I always thought it calmed me down, but I was always wrong about that.
There's a whole section on the site for people dealing with depression/anxiety/etc. and a bunch of people in the quit groups who have the exact same concerns. There are 28,000+ people who use/have used the site and over 4 million posts. I believe that anything you could feel has been felt by someone here.
So Seth are you quit right now? Have you flushed any and all nicotine? If so man, get over and post roll in your March 17 quit group. The folks here are just a handful of the quitters that will have your back. It really is easy, Post Roll drink the kook-aid and watch the Nic Bitch drown one day at a time (ODAAT)!

CLICK HERE >>>>>>> March 17 Group
Edited by Jeff W, Dec 19 2016, 11:07 PM.
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seth8a
Dec 19 2016, 10:46 PM
tabrow3
Dec 19 2016, 10:35 PM
Seth, I promised my soon to be wife I'd quit when we got married. That was 23 years ago. Then I promised her I'd quit when our daughter was born (21 years ago). I REALLY promised her I'd quit when my son was born (18 years ago). I know self-loathing, brother. And most of the guys on here have unnervingly similar stories to tell. Do not wait to dump the tin and join us in March. Don't wait until tomorrow.
Thanks man. The habit started probably same as a lot of other folks, too--I worked in forestry and hell, guys would go through a can of Cope a day on my crew and think nothing of it. It was part of the culture. I work in about a white collar job as possible these days, but still can't get passed the old habit of using. I've got to break the cycle. I also have battled anxiety for a lot of my life, and I wonder how many people can related to that, too. I always thought it calmed me down, but I was always wrong about that.
You use the word "habit" a lot, but if you can't break the bonds of this habit, it's an addiction. This was the hardest thing for me to accept, because I wasn't an addict. Truth is, I am an addict.

I know you don't want to hear that, but if you can't quit nicotine, then you are addicted. Quitting is simple. The only way to stay quit is to stay quit. Just don't put the shite in your mouth. It's that friggin simple. It's that friggin difficult. If you're addicted, we can help you. Just post roll and quit for today. Anyone can quit for a day.
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Are you going to post roll? That's how we quit.
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RDB1972
Dec 20 2016, 11:22 AM
Are you going to post roll? That's how we quit.
Seth,

This is from an email I just sent through the KTC system....leaving it here for posterity....

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Read through your intro and thought to myself "He hasn't gotten it....yet". You see, it's not just a habit. You, and I, and everyone else on KTC who has read enough to fully understand, are ADDICTS. We are addicted to nicotine. It is a very powerful addiction, on par with cocaine. But it can be broken, and brought to submission. You can do it, but you have to want it bad enough. If you're serious, read up on the site about how things are done....

1. Wake up, piss, post roll. Why? Because assuming you're a man of integrity, you honor your promise (roll post) that you will not use nicotine in any form for the next 24 hours.
2. Rinse/repeat. We quit only for today. Why? Because early in a quit, thinking about never having a dip again is usually too much burden. Concentrate on today, this hour, this minute if necessary. We quit for today, and when tomorrow gets here, quit then as well. Daily. EVERY DAMN DAY (EDD).
3. Get to know the folks in your quit group. Why? Because even though it may sound cheesy, over time if you invest in them, they will become like an extended family. Really. I know because my Sultans are in every sense of the word my brothers (and sister).

Of course, you are free to go it your own way. But if you want KTC's help, you have to play by KTC's rules.... Quitting with you today, if you want to quit. The ball is now in your court. Decision is yours to make....choose wisely!
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seth8a
Dec 19 2016, 10:26 PM
miker0351
Dec 19 2016, 10:04 PM
Hey Seth, you've been getting some great feedback from a bunch of people and all that they're saying is spot on. I once heard a saying that's stuck with me, "wish in one hand, crap in the other and see which one fills up first". The plain and simple answer is to just stop using the stuff. That's the great thing about this site and the method here that's proven effective for so many people. You only need to quit for one day at a time (odaat) and keep quitting every damn day (edd). No one in here us committed to forever, we just keep quitting each day. Time to stop wishing brother and start committing just for one day
I promised my wife I'd stop. My daughters are the most beautiful things in the world to me and I promised to them I'd stop. The worst thing is the lying--to myself and to others. I "just" dipped for three weeks and a couple of tins, but it's like I never quit. It was about as pathetic as you can get--reading books to them with a chew in my mouth while hiccuping because I was trying to hide it.
Hey, man, you keep bringing up your wife and kids. I get it, we all do. But your quit cannot be about them, that needs to be a tangential benefit. Be selfish and make this quit about you, pour everything you have into it. You keep voicing your shame and yet you take no action. The keys are in your hands, just open the door and post roll.
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Post roll, or you are just another troll. I quit with people that post roll.
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