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DAY 4 New here long time lurker; new member
Topic Started: Nov 30 2016, 03:06 PM (1,690 Views)
hemistry08
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Hi,
I am new here, long time lurker - I have been here several times over the past 3 years during the brief times I tried to quit reading up on how to quit. I have never posted and always fell back into the can literally. I decided to kill the can 4 days ago just quit cold turkey, it has been ok so far but what drove me to quit this time was extreme irritation in my gums, I was using a different brand of tobacco (Grizzly) and it really irritated my gums and mouth to the point I am still not 100%. I still have intense cravings but decided to take advantage of this negative experience and turn it around listing all the bad things tobacco is doing to me - gum loss, bad breath, stains on teeth, nasty spit, elevated heart rate and blood pressure headaches acid reflux, insomnia, dry skin, dry mouth, allergies, and expensive habit.

I am having trouble figuring out my support group my official quit day was 11- 26- 2016 and I calculated 100 days at Feb 5 2017.
I am here to stay and really appreciate the strength and honor of the stories I have read here, it gives me hope and am thankful to those who started this forum.
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hemistry08
Nov 30 2016, 03:06 PM
Hi,
I am new here, long time lurker - I have been here several times over the past 3 years during the brief times I tried to quit reading up on how to quit. I have never posted and always fell back into the can literally. I decided to kill the can 4 days ago just quit cold turkey, it has been ok so far but what drove me to quit this time was extreme irritation in my gums, I was using a different brand of tobacco (Grizzly) and it really irritated my gums and mouth to the point I am still not 100%. I still have intense cravings but decided to take advantage of this negative experience and turn it around listing all the bad things tobacco is doing to me - gum loss, bad breath, stains on teeth, nasty spit, elevated heart rate and blood pressure headaches acid reflux, insomnia, dry skin, dry mouth, allergies, and expensive habit.

I am having trouble figuring out my support group my official quit day was 11- 26- 2016 and I calculated 100 days at Feb 5 2017.
I am here to stay and really appreciate the strength and honor of the stories I have read here, it gives me hope and am thankful to those who started this forum.
Welcome Hemisrty. Honestly the Best decision you could have made. There's a simple formula to success around here. Post roll Early and honor your word for that day.
Your in the new March 2017 Group (HOF Group) here http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30081110/20/
Drink lots of water and read lots of KTC. Proud to quit with you

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Posting roll early and daily - Wake Up Piss Post Every Damn Day - (WUPP EDD) is the backbone of the site, and the key to our success.

It sounds strange to you to be accountable to internet strangers, but after a while the members of your quit group become like a second family, and the last thing you will want to do is to let them down by going back on a promise.

We quit one day at a time - every 24 hours. That's why we post daily. We WUPP, because once we make our promise - if we are men (and women) of our word, dipping/chewing/using nicotine is off the table for the rest of the day.

We get digits from our quit brothers so we can reach out when we are craving bad.

This is how we do it, and it works.
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hemistry08
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Thanks gentlemen I tried posting in the roll but don't I did it right, trying to watch the video on how to post but at work.
Also is there a test thread to practice roll call posts in? I will post when I get home.

I need help, it's day 4 and I feel like I am falling apart.

I am a lifelong athlete and bodybuilder for the last 25 years, I have always felt that the chew tore me down and poisoned me and my gains, but now it feels the exact opposite every muscle joint and bone hurts in my body, I exercised 2 of the last 4 days I have quit and I felt like I was dying, blasting water and vitamins etc.
Monday I had a headache so bad it lasted 18 hours. I guess it's the stupidity of me ignoring the with-drawl of nicotine.

I will never go back and this is just the beginning I know. I have learned a lot from reading this forum on and off for 3 years.
I felt guilty and shamed when reading the forum while still partaking in nicotine.

It's important for me to tell my story here as I think it may help answer my questions on how I did a complete 360 on pursuing health and exercise and adding the toxic nicotine tobacco to the mix and looking in the mirror everyday with shame.

I kept telling myself I was ok, I was down to one dip a day - M-F on the way to work. Sat/Sun I'd do 2 so I wasn't really on the path to stopping as some days I'd do a second dip after 5 pm on the way home which is a nightmare for me because that second dip would keep me up till 1 am. I found myself skipping work outs and stopping at the dollar store to get a can on the way home and start the cycle again. Just about every other week I'd toss a can and swear I'd quit, but find myself digging in my own trash to get it in the morning. pitiful I know. Each time I failed I'd fall into a deep sadness a disappointment in myself for being so weak. The last can 4 days ago I dumped in the toilet, flushed it and rinsed the residue out of the can and here I am. I started marking the day on my calendar and then day 4 got here and I knew I needed help. July 4th was the last time I quit, I thought choosing a memorable day would help but it didn't in less than a week I had that crap back in my mouth with tears in my eyes calling myself a coward.

I started in 1993 and it was the exact same way I'd start 20 years later. We were out celebrating X-mas at work and went to a buffet like GC, I rode with a co worker that did 3 tins of kodiak a day. I was complaining on how full I was and he said the kodiak would settle my stomach, I'll never forget it - I put it in and felt nothing till I got out of the jeep 10 minutes later I fell down very dizzy, but the the buzz hit and all that and I was hooked. Back then I only did kodiak about 3 times a week since I was so active in bodybuilding and my job was in a lab I could only fit it in on my non-work out days, I quit in 1996 and did not start back until 2013. I have tried since that day to figure out what made me quit, I think I was just tired of it and the combo of a new job and moving left me with no other tobacco influences.

In 2013 I'll never forget that day I was in sport's bar and had a huge meal appetizers burgers salads etc, one of my friends came at me with a can of skoal citrus and that was it. Since then I have "stopped" hundreds of times and switched everything I could to jolt out of it I went on a long binge of general snus pouches fooling myself that it was healthier. I look back at my behaviors which led to a lot of weight gain, I found myself forcing food into large meals so tat I could have an excuse to dip to settle my stomach, I gained 30 additional pounds from doing this and wasted 1,000's of $'s in food costs since most of the time we were out in sports bars. My wife is no help because she smokes, she pretends to care but I know it's not true, so no support there.

So here I lay in detox in both mind and spirit and in friendship, thanks for the forum, the patience and the understanding of all we have in common with this deadly drug.
Edited by hemistry08, Nov 30 2016, 04:50 PM.
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The best thing about learning to post roll is that you will get better at it everyday. Get your promise in there and don't use nicotine, you will figure the rest out. You have come to the right place for help. I remember day 4 and thought that if I wasn't loosing my mind then I was certainly dying. You won't fall apart --you will feel better! The only thing that will feel worse is going back to it. Four days is awesome and you are stronger than you know! Hang in there
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The only bad roll post is the one you are not on. Don't you worry one bit about fucking up roll. Your promise is the key
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hemistry08
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thanks guys I am committed and feel so much at home here...you guys are the only ones that can understand the story and the pain and you are the ones I look to for inspiration and know that it CAN be DONE.
You want to know what I am right now!
ANGRY!
Angry that I let something like this control me in that way. Never smoked or drank due to my lifestyle but somehow that ground mixed tobacco in my lip hooked me hook line and sinker.
I am already looking ahead to day 5 and flip off the 2 locations I would stop by to by my tins on the way home.
This time last week I was stuffing my lips with copenhagen, never once thought I'd be tobacco free seven days later - well here is to forever - 14 21 and beyond....NEVER AGAIN - thank you all!
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Hemistry,

Honestly, when I read your intro thread, I'm skeptical that you have the right mindset. You need to quit the talk about weight gain, athleticism, sports bars, lifting, your wife's smoking, quitting dip making your joints feel weak (lol!). All of that shit is irrelevant.

Do you want to quit a deadly and destructive addiction? Then do it, one day at a time. Post roll and commit to being quit for a day. Then wake up tomorrow and do it again. Before you know it, you'll be on the other side where the pastures are green. A few months from now you'll be a whole new man.
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hemistry08
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Nov 30 2016, 06:58 PM
Hemistry,

Honestly, when I read your intro thread, I'm skeptical that you have the right mindset. You need to quit the talk about weight gain, athleticism, sports bars, lifting, your wife's smoking, quitting dip making your joints feel weak (lol!). All of that shit is irrelevant.

Do you want to quit a deadly and destructive addiction? Then do it, one day at a time. Post roll and commit to being quit for a day. Then wake up tomorrow and do it again. Before you know it, you'll be on the other side where the pastures are green. A few months from now you'll be a whole new man.
I officially quit nov 26 2016...there's no going back.

day 5 tomorrow here I come
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got another major serious headache - like a deep migraine... hopefully it won't last 18 hours like the last one.

Gonna take an advil and try to go to bed.
Edited by hemistry08, Nov 30 2016, 10:02 PM.
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hemistry08
Nov 30 2016, 10:01 PM
got another major serious headache - like a deep migraine... hopefully it won't last 18 hours like the last one.

Gonna take an advil and try to go to bed.
I had them off and on. Don't rush your quit, it's one day at a time or you will lose site of what you need to be focusing on, that sneaky nic bitch! Remember how bad your feeling right now because if you cave and ever decide quit again it will be the same shit! Like yourself I worked out religiously. I weighed 180 and was benching 350 at age 45 at age 49 had a massive heart attack from dipping. A year after my heart attack I found ktc, 704 day's later im still quit after 38 years of slavery! Need I say anymore? Post roll Early EDD ODAAT!
ROLL TIDE ROLL! God, Family and crappie fishing! I will always be an addict, but hopefully never a slave again!
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hemistry08
Nov 30 2016, 10:01 PM
got another major serious headache - like a deep migraine... hopefully it won't last 18 hours like the last one.

Gonna take an advil and try to go to bed.
It's gonna be ok brother! No one ever died from quitting dip. For the first month of my quit, I used nighttime Tylenol to combat the headaches and insomnia. You got this. Wake up tmrw and post day 5 and make your promise to satay quit for the day. Then... Keep your promise all day. We are here for you. Remember that tobacco is a wicked addiction and you are a bad ass quitter!
"However, HERE you need to stop fucking chewing tobacco! I don't care if you shove a McRib Sandwich stuffed with broken glass and a recycled Justin Beiber CD in your face, just don't use tobacco or any other nicotine product!" PKY1520

"Plus, the shortbus name is not something that was produced by Aug '17, but by Fishflorida (a well-established face of bigotry on this site).." : LMM
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Hey Brotha, your in the right place. I was the same way. Came to KTC. Joined. But never posted and screwed around on my own trying to quit. Very unsuccessful. Then I decided it was time. I dipped for 35 years. Brought tears to my eyes deciding that it was time. I came back. Posted my intro. Then posted my Day 1. Give it all you got. In this lies the secret. We quit for today. We aren't biting off forever. That's too much to deal with. Post first thing in the morning. Get your day covered by your promise that for today, this one day, that for not one reason what so ever will you fail on this one day. And damn, the awesome feeling of waking up the next morning and posting a bigger number of days Quit beside your name begins to fuel your strength and resolve. It works. Its awesome. If I can do it, you can do it. Ive done it today for 1194 days. Read everything you can here. Get involved with the others in your Quit group. Get names. Get numbers. Your phone should turn into a pocket vibrator from getting texts all day from your Quit Buddies. And that is the magic here. THAT WE DONT
QUIT ALONE, WE QUIT TOGETHER. Look up to the top right of this page. Says INBOX. I'm se4nding you my number. Ill Quit with you and support you in your journey.
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You shared alot. Keep sharing, keep posting, keep being active.

Here are Candy's 4 corner stones of quit:
- You are only as accountable as you let yourself be.
- You post and ghost your ass is toast.
- There is no such thing as cured, only quit.
- We quit for 24 hours. We can do anything for 24 hours.

It has worked for 863 days, I do not plan on changing it now.
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YOU DO NOT ACHIEVE MASTERY BY PRACTICING THE ADVANCED TECHNIQUES. YOU ACHIEVE MASTERY BY PRACTICING THE BASICS.

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Hemi...all solid advice ^^^ up there so far. Read everything you can about this addiction. Become an expert. There is great advice here, whyquit.com has an enormous nicotine quit library, read Allen Carr's book (The Easy Way to Stop Smoking...but don't let the smoking throw you, it is about nicotine). Once you really see it for what it is - a drug addiction (read that again and let it set in...you,me, all of us are nicotine addicts), it will make it easier to hate it...which will in turn make it easier to battle. Also, about a dozen times (a day, some days!) you are going to think...am I ever going to sleep again, lose the rage, lose the fog, feel NORMAL again?! The answer is YES. I promise you that. But you have to give your body a chance to heal and your brain time to rewire. In the meantime, just take it one day at a time and lean on everyone here. We are all here for you and YOU WILL DO THIS!
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