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22 years - time to stop
Topic Started: Aug 30 2011, 01:26 PM (596 Views)
Fla_K5
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My story –

Started very young - first time I was about 11 years old and I threw up like many others did. Tried again a few years after, chewing tobacco and dip both. This time it stuck.. started using. By the time I was 15 it was daily. Going on 37 now … and it has been 1 can a day for since 18 or so.

Wife never says a word about it, never complains. But I’m tired of hiding it and “working it in” at family events, social events, etc. It’s hard work sneaking a dip as many here know. I have been really concerned about my health lately as well. I’m fit and in good shape, but I do have high blood pressure which I have had for 10 years. I know the amount of nicotine I consume from a can a day is a factor in this. Also concerned about the cancer possibilities , etc, this stuff can cause.

I have tried to quit in the past before, but not like this time. I’m going to give it a good shot this time. I’m going on 24 hours now without a dip… first time in many years I have went this long without. It’s double hard with me because I work from home…where I can dip freely all long if I choose. I’m surviving for now… have some nicotine gum to help for the first few days. Also have a lot of the fake dip… which really helps.

I guess the first 3 days are the hardest… we’ll see.
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Fla_K5
Aug 30, 2011, 12:26 pm
My story –

Started very young - first time I was about 11 years old and I threw up like many others did. Tried again a few years after, chewing tobacco and dip both. This time is stuck.. started using. By the time I was 15 it was daily. Going on 37 now … and it has been 1 can a day for since 18 or so.

Wife never says a word about it, never complains. But I’m tired of hiding it and “working it in” at family events, social events, etc. It’s hard work sneaking a dip as many here know. I have been really concerned about my health lately as well. I’m fit and in good shape, but I do have high blood pressure which I have had for 10 years. I know the amount of nicotine I consume from a can a day is a factor in this. Also concerned about the cancer possibilities , etc, this stuff can cause.

I have tried to quit in the past before, but not like this time. I’m going to give it a good shot this time. I’m going on 24 hours now without a dip… first time in many years I have went this long without. It’s double hard with me because I work from home…where I can dip freely all long if I choose. I’m surviving for now… have some nicotine gum to help for the first few days. Also have a lot of the fake dip… which really helps.

I guess the first 3 days are the hardest… we’ll see.

Welcome to the site. head over to the December quit group and post roll call.
http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13
Click #3 on that link for instructions.

I work from home also. I was up to 2 cans a day when I went 100% cold turkey 607 days ago.

It can be done!! Let us know if you need anything!!
Being quit is like so much better than not being quit.
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Fla,

Post roll--give your word

Repeat every day

One day at a time

You got this!
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can do without" HD Thoreau
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You have come to the right place. I was a total closet dipper, and I know what you mean about being sick of it. I was sick of that and of needing something just to feel normal. This place has all the resources you will need.
Go post roll, join us one day at a time, it's a crazy ride, and sometimes it really sucks, but you are gonna love being free!
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Die biting the throat.

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Fla_K5
Aug 30, 2011, 12:26 pm
I know the amount of nicotine I consume from a can a day is a factor in this. Also concerned about the cancer possibilities , etc, this stuff can cause.

I have tried to quit in the past before, but not like this time. I’m going to give it a good shot this time. I’m going on 24 hours now without a dip…

Sounds like you know you NEED to quit, but do you really WANT it? You gotta really want it, or it's an automatic fail. Get your head in the game. Don't "try", or "give it a good shot". Quit... for good. I understand what you meant, but just wanted to make the point that we all have to be 100% committed every day, or this wont work.

Now get over to December group and make us a promise.
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You got this !! It might not be pretty but post roll and quit, like they told me we don't try we QUIT each day and stay that way. I am only 8 days in and never tried to hide my dip and dipped a can a day for 28 years. Nothing but gum now. Hollar out to someone if you need some help
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Fla_K5
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Radman,

Honestly the idea of NOT dipping makes me shake. I can’t picture my life without it because I have done it since I was kid. It’s like breathing air to me…. a natural part of my life. I understand it’s not natural and that my brain needs to be reworked over time. So… do I want to quit or am I trying to quit?? Both… I want to quit and I’m going to try damn hard to do so….because I feel like if I don’t it will kill me.

These are tough questions. If all the scientist and doctor’s came out tomorrow and said smokeless tobacco is 100% safe .. would people still quit? I honestly don’t think I would as my sole reason to quit is related to the possible health problems. Again, I’m new at this and don’t know if these are the right answers. All I know is that I have never gave “quitting” a good shot and the time is now.
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FLA,

Bullshit!

First of all, smokeless tobacco being safe (the fantasy you wish to be true) is your addicted self talking. Your addicted-self is saying, "I really love doing this nasty shit". You don't LOVE this shit--you love that it makes you feel NORMAL.

You are addicted to NICOTINE and the dipping is the nasty ass habit that delivers your addiction--don't confuse the two. Go ahead and dip the fake shit for as long as you want--let's get you off the nicotine!

You dip nicotine to feel NORMAL. Because if you don't dip you go into withdrawal--this happens several times a day to dippers-- or all nic addicts. The way you feel after you dip is the way you will feel after you are no longer a dipper---ITS CALLED NORMAL--ITS called being HUMAN.

Now that I am a former-dipper (nic addict) I have that NORMAL high all the time--it's called being HUMAN. I don't have to place a cancerous turd in my mouth to feel NORMAL/HUMAN.

Now do you understand--the best way to feel NORMAL is to go into one last final withdrawal---its called QUITTING for TODAY and FOR GOOD! The nicotine is creating the problem and solving the problem it is creating---it is a zero-sum GAME--except the game results in death by cancer!!!! Withdrawal is the body/mind going crazy because it thinks it will die without nicotine. Once the BODY/MIND realizes that the addiction is just a lie--it will regain BALANCE.

Balance and Normality is reastablished quickly. The question is are you man enough to make the journey each day and are you man enough to let go of this LIE!

This site has the right tools to help you make this journey. I made that journey 125 days ago. I dipped 80% of my waking hours and I have not thought about dipping for the better part of the week. I was hooked on nicotine for 18 solid years--now I am not and I feel....... NORMAL

Pm me if you need anything--I support you.
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can do without" HD Thoreau
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K5,

As Yoda once said, "There is no try. There is only do." Corny, but absolutely the fucking truth. One day at a time. Make the committment, post roll everyday. Get numbers so you can call/text when you are needing some support in real-time.

The first few days are shitty. It will get easier. But, don't forget you're an addict and you will forever be an addict. Don't be ashamed of this. Embrace it as something that you are. We all are. We're human, hey, what a shocker! Once you internalize the fact that you became an addict, you will be able to make peace with yourself. When that happens, you are truly on the road to recovery.

Quit with me today.

whsii
Quit dip Date: 8-12-2011
Last cigarette: 10-1-2009
HOF: 11-20-2011
25th Floor June 16, 2018

[big]veni, vidi, et relicto[/big]
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Fla_K5
Aug 30, 2011, 1:26 pm
… have some nicotine gum to help for the first few days.

Fla_K5,

Welcome. Glad you're here. You've found the right place. I was just like you 48 days ago - - wondering how in the world I'm going to part with my constant companion, Copenhagen. I couldn't imagine life without it. Now I can't imagine ever going back to it. This site works. Read, read, and read some more. You'll see you're not alone.

You will get through this. First few days will be really tough, but you will muscle through. Focus on today. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here.

You mentioned in your first post that you have some nic gum on standby. Toss that sh*t in the trash. We don't post roll here and still use nic. You must totally banish it. That's the way this place works. Post roll with your December brothers ONLY if/when you are nic-free.

I quit with you!

Phil4
Quit 07/14/11
HOF 10/21/11
2nd 01/30/12
3rd 05/08/12
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Fla_K5
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yea.. the nic gun actually makes me feel weird and doesn't help anyway. I don’t really see a need for it. Now.. the smokey mountain (fake dip) really helps. I guess half the habit is the routine of packing and splitting…. So it helps with that. Candy and juicy fruit works too.

What type of attitude is best? Constantly thinking about it and being aware of it? Or trying NOT to always think about it… staying busy and acting like it’s not the end of world
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Welcome and Congrats.

You are gonna think about it..I don't care how badass you are...nicotine and dipping will be on your mind for a while.

Get in here, post roll and keep your promise. Peruse the site and check out what other quitters have to say.

It ain't easy but it's possible. You have to want it though. I can't quit for you brother...

Now let's get this quit started!

It gets easier and those craves get fewer and less intense as time goes by.
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Quit = 03/7/2011
HOF = 06/15/2011
COMMA = 12/01/2013
FOREVER QUIT - NEVER LOOKING BACK - HOLD ME TO THAT STATEMENT PLEASE

Let Him Roll

MY STORY

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Whether nicotine dependency was established and/or maintained by being chewed, smoked, drank, snuffed, sprayed, swallowed, sucked, licked or patched, in the end there is only one way out - no nicotine today.

Work it 1 day at a time. Just today. Today only. You can do this. Do you see the troops rallying for you?

They believe in you. Do you? I do.
1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
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Day 2,600: 1/22/2018
Day 0,001: 12/11/2010

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Fla_K5
Aug 30, 2011, 2:39 pm

What type of attitude is best? Constantly thinking about it and being aware of it? Or trying NOT to always think about it… staying busy and acting like it’s not the end of world

I had this converstion with a member yesterday. I am an addict, I have that personality. Whatever I do, good or bad, I do all the way. I stopped drinking nearly 20 years ago, and I am 40 now. The first few weeks I was into the quit groups. But then I got the feeling that they really didn't like themselves as quitters. They always talked about using, how they did it, where, when and of course the horror stories, they always tried to one up each other.

I wanted to quit, not hear about using. I knew I had had enough and moved away from the groups. It worked for me, but I was ready, and I knew I was ready.

You don't sound ready. Stay here, post roll, and don't use TODAY, not tomorrow but TODAY. The first few days you may need to go to hours or minutes, even SECONDS!

DON'T STICK THAT SHIT IN YOUR FACE THIS SECOND, don't worry about the rest.

I'm on my 4th. week after chewing for 23 years.
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Fla_K5
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Going on 48 hours dip free

Things I’m learning -
1.Reading other stories on this site helps a lot
2.I can tell now I should go ahead a quit drinking while I’m at it. I drink only once every other weekend or so… but I know that this will be the time I most likely fall back into this problem.
3. I felt like shit yesterday….periods of fog and haze. But seem to have a lot of energy for chores around the house. Just trying to keep busy. So far today I feel good.
4.Sleeping good, but 2 hours more than normal.
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