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| mule | Jun 28 2014, 09:58 AM Post #16 |
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Maybe it's time I started using this thread......6 years late..... Many discussions, passionate and otherwise, have taken place over the past few days......I spent a good deal of time/thought on the following post. Decided to put it here......maybe it will help someone today. I know it has helped me..... Today....I am quit. From a conversation in Battlefield: Loot has always been a large part of my quit. I will not discuss in public my relationship with him. I have had conversations prior to his decision to leave.....HIS decision to leave....and exchanged a couple of texts after learning of his choice. I indicated to him it was my hope that our friendship would transcend our quits.....I still hope it will. I told him I disagreed with his choices.....as is my right. He is passionate about his position....as is his right. I will not discuss this further other than to say.....I sincerely wish him well in his venture. As proud of KTC as I am...as hard as many people have worked to make it what it is....it is not perfect and does not meet the needs of every single person that comes thru our doors. I am battling nicotine addiction.....I am not looking go build a monopoly. I think any site that offers accountability, complete cessation and the tools to quit is a wonderful thing. Your interpretation of events is certainly your right. I will say, you are not privy to all the discussions that have taken place.....just as I am not privy to all the conversations you have had that led you to arrive at your opinion/position. If you can not successfully quit with the program KTC has built, then I would encourage you to find one that works for you. That does not mean "our way or the highway".....it simply means that you nor I can not do this alone....we both need help and need to lock in to a program that will work for us individually.......we are in a constant state of flux and transition as quitters move on/mods retire and even a few admins retire along the way. In the past couple of years I know Ready, Rutroh and most recently Fran have all retired. During the 6 plus years I have been here I have seen the retirements of Aqua, Whodey, SOS, 11x4, Chewless Jim and Ldiddy.....with the recent re-instatement of diddy, there are only 3 founding members that remain as admins...one of which is the head mechanic (Chews). Everyone of these gentlemen has impacted this site.....Their diversity came together in a unification of one goal.....quit first....and help in any way they can to perpetuate the quit of others. I'll point out something else as well......you do not need color to have an impact on this site.....it is here with very few rules by design to allow you and every member that is quit to participate and make it their own. Look at the wild card thread......how diverse....most of those threads have been suggested by members wanting to generate brotherhood and share interests with fellow quitters......perhaps you like to post roll everywhere....maybe you are a chatter.....etc etc.... All the administrators and mods of this site are doing is trying to provide the opportunity for anyone who wants to quit to quit....AND the opportunity to pass it on or be involved. I truly apologize to you and anyone else that has lost respect for me.....and all the admins due to their perceived perception of ineffectual leadership. I would never do anything that would intentionally and blatantly negatively impact a single solitary quit on these boards. I do stand behind my position that we have created a successful environment that is allowing many to find what they need here and successfully battle their addictions. It is my belief that you are one of those people. It is my hope that you will continue to be.....it is your choice to decide if that will be the case...only you can decide if this program/site will allow you to be successful for you. I spent most of my evening last night in what I considered intelligent, thought provoking conversation. It was/is a good thing to exchange ideas, discuss objectives and even occasionally bump heads..... Real life calls.....I am packing up the family and heading out for a week in the beautiful north Georgia mountains......I intend to be thankful that I am quit so I can enjoy the beauty of that area, the relaxation of watching the sun come up and go down, the shrill girlish yelps of terror from teenage boys as I drag their little asses behind a ski boat, eating, grilling and with any luck.....sneakin in a poke or two. You have my word that I will be on roll call. I have enlisted a couple of brothers from July to help me with that.....we don't have internet at the house and I am severely smart phone challenged. I will be available...as always....to anyone that has or wants my number. We can disagree.....that is ok and to be expected. Our opinions can vary, we can have conflicting opinions, we can hate each others guts...... but as long as we have one thing.....just one thing.....it will be alright. I posted roll this morning......I gave you my word that today....no matter what happens or comes my way.....nicotine is completely off the table for me. I assume you have done the same....... Today....I look you in the eye, make my vow.....and quit with you. everything else is just fluff..... |
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In the end, a Spartan's true strength is the warrior next to him. So give respect and honor to him, and it will be returned to you. Leonidas "300" mule's mantra, "Post roll first thing....then live your life and keep your word." I know I will never cave on a day that I have posted roll.....ever. Quit Date: 1-3-08, HOF 4-11-08, Comma 9-28-10 | |
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| Bruce | Jun 28 2014, 10:56 AM Post #17 |
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I imagined you as Sam Elliot with an American flag waving in the background....is that odd? Good speech. I quit with you today mule. Appletini and all |
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Quit date: 11/21/11 HOF date: 2/28/12 Comma date: 8/16/14 It's a freedom thing Caving is NOT an option -"Now I can walk through walls and my quit can talk to god. That's right. Crazy voodoo magic quit" Souliman -'Stop being a pussy and quit' Tarpon17 -"this is the gheyest place on earth, if you say it in here it might become someones signature" Bigwhitebeast - "We Quit Like Fuck" - Coach Steve | |
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| mule | Jan 10 2015, 12:46 PM Post #18 |
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A lot has happened over the past several months......there has been much discontent....much anger....much debate..... much disrespect. This post is NOT about right and wrong......it is not meant to be a debate of specifics...... It IS meant to be "food for thought".....and hopefully will give many that "wasn't there" an insight as to what the site looked like in the "old days"...... Seems to me, our primary "philosophy of quit" has evolved into a "battleground" where more effort/time is being spent criticizing, condemning, bullying, and outright disrespect propagated by strangers sitting behind keyboards. Ole mule was served up some Kool-Aid back in the day that was very plain....but very, very good. Give your word, Keep your word, Pass it on.....I found complete strangers taking an interest in me.....and more importantly....my quit. They encouraged, they guided, they led by the proof of their days.....it was incredible to see comma's....and impossible at the time to imagine that I would ever achieve such......yet, I was told by many vets (NOT just mods/admins) that it was possible...... and all I had to do was post roll....keep my word for today.....over and over and over.... You take a young quit.....give it that type of "faith" from peers..... It is a powerful motivator...... It is a very good thing..... We have somehow developed into "accountability" being defined as a license for abuse......it shouldn't be that way at all. I can look you in the eye and call you a liar.....make you accountable for your actions.....remind you of your obligation and put the question to you.....Are you willing to make amends and put forth the effort to earn back my trust? If not, there are other quitters that need my time..... This playing "internet tough guy" by many is not the way many of us were "brought up and taught" by our predecessors......was caving reviled? yes...always has been, always will be....which is necessary to our program. It absolutely must be addressed.....but there is a huge difference in "vets showing the way, leading by example, and making all younger quitters envious of the freedom they have attained" and instead motivating exclusively out of fear.....is fear an effective motivator? sure.....is it as effective as setting the path, showing the way and leading by encouragement without degradation? it is not..... Somehow we have replaced a key piece of motivation (at least for me) which was "disappointing my peers".....my peers being my group and the vets that took an interest in me and were leading the site by example and involvement.....which is a much greater motivator than the "fear of getting reamed by a bunch of internet bullies hiding behind a keyboard"...... I got my ass tore outta the frame as a "young mule" when I stepped outta line......but the true lessons of life that I was taught and still stay with me as an adult are the ones that involved "disappointment in my choices/actions"......I was never afraid of a whuppin....... I was terrified of losing the respect of many influential adults that helped make me into the man I am...... Seems to me.....we need to get back to some real accountability......and the basic building stones that have helped this site provide a haven of quit for many. This site is built FOR quitters BY quitters....it is now, and always has been a free site dedicated exclusively to the cessation of nicotine use. It is here to provide an opportunity to battle side by side....shoulder to shoulder against a shared enemy. I'm quit today after over 2500 days because of this site and the accountability and efforts of many..... and it feels very good to be able to make that statement......if your ahead of me....thanks for teaching me it is possible.....if you are behind me.....come on....let's get this done....and if I can help in some small way....please do not hesitate to ask. just some musings from an old ass...... |
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In the end, a Spartan's true strength is the warrior next to him. So give respect and honor to him, and it will be returned to you. Leonidas "300" mule's mantra, "Post roll first thing....then live your life and keep your word." I know I will never cave on a day that I have posted roll.....ever. Quit Date: 1-3-08, HOF 4-11-08, Comma 9-28-10 | |
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