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Giving Up Your Quit - Just For A Dip ??; Think about this before caving!
Topic Started: Nov 19 2007, 01:27 AM (16,695 Views)
mylilsecret
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Women and Smokeless Tobacco Use

Although more than 90 percent of smokeless tobacco users in the United States are male, a substantial number of women also use smokeless tobacco products.
Studies show that women have a harder time trying to quit smokeless and have less success with abstinence programs than men. There are many proposed reasons for this:

Nicotine has different effects on mood in women compared to men. Women who quit may have greater anxiety and stress than men who quit. Women are not as physically dependent on nicotine as men, but they are more addicted to the actual behavior of smokeless, which is the more powerful deterrent to quitting. This may be the reason why nicotine replacement, which only reduces cravings, tends not to be as effective in women. Women may fear weight gain after quitting more than men. Certain phases in the menstrual cycle may reduce the response to drugs that are used to help women quit.

Men may be less supportive than women in helping their partners to quit. Women trying to quit may miss the feeling of control associated with smokeless tobacco more than men.

There's a perceived social disapproval of women using smokeless tobacco. In fact, 38 percent of the women in the study said they could not use smokeless tobacco in the presence of certain people, and another 25 percent cited social disapproval as a drawback. These social concerns may reduce opportunities for women to use smokeless tobacco within their social circle. In spite of these drawbacks, a significant percentage of women in the study said the relaxing and calming effects and pleasure they associate with smokeless tobacco use are advantages of using these products.

Identifying factors associated with smokeless tobacco use by women and their current patterns of use could generate ways to prevent and treat smokeless tobacco use among women, the study states. "The data from this research could help target some of the educational and prevention messages that we should be giving to women." However, first we have to make women smokeless tobacco users aware that other women use smokeless tobacco products and that they are not abnormal, so they are willing to seek help," a reseacher says."Women may be embarrassed about admitting smokeless tobacco use because the general perception is that smokeless tobacco use is socially undesirable, and women don't use it," the researcher speculates.

Among the unattractive features of smokeless tobacco use is the need to spit tobacco juice from time to time and dislodge particles of loose tobacco that get trapped between the teeth. This disadvantage of smokeless tobacco use was the one most frequently cited by women who did participated in a study of female smokeless tobacco users who weren't seeking treatment, conducted by Dr. Hatsuki and her colleagues.

Information collected from several websites.



If you are a female wishing to quit this addiction, know that you're not alone. Please realize you're not nasty for using this type of nicotine. Try not to be embarrassed. I know it's so very hard. I've been there! It's taken 20 + years for me to finally say, "I am a woman Copenhagen user."

Also realize even if you are not ready to quit, I am here to support you in an effort to prove just how important you are. Take the first step. And just maybe more will follow.

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Men .. what are your views of female dippers - ex-dippers? Honesty please!

Society doesn't think of women dippers .. but yet many of us hide for fear we'll be labeled "ugly" which why most never quit or seek help.
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I never had a problem with women dippers at all, I mean.....I did it, so it seems quite hypocritical to come down on someone else for doing it- male or female. Actually.....used to think it was kind of hot.....probably shouldn't have typed that :D :wub:
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mylilsecret
Apr 19, 2008, 8:50 pm
Men .. what are your views of female dippers - ex-dippers? Honesty please!

Society doesn't think of women dippers .. but yet many of us hide for fear we'll be labeled "ugly" which why most never quit or seek help.

Call me ignorant or blind or whatever, I didn't know any women dipped until I joined here. The only time in my life I saw a woman chew was in 1981 when my sister and her friend asked me for some copenhagen so they could get a buzz on for a High School dance. Needless to say, they got so pukin sick that they missed the dance and never tried it again.

I consider it very hypocritical to criticize others based on sex when it comes to this shit. Guys who call women ugly for having a fatty in their lip need to look in the mirror and see how stupid they look.
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I'd have to agree with Crosshair. I never met any female dip users or knew there was any until I joined this site, so I never had an opinion...till I read the posts of the mighty fine ladies that grace this board. ;)

I could only imagine it being so much tougher to go through the quit on women simply because of that.. it really isn't something you associate with women. Its something us men try to hide from the public, at least I did. I was embarrassed to be a dipper, unless I was around good friends, which is ironic, now that I think about it. Being female must make it 10 times worse. I've learned a lot from reading the posts of MLS, NHS, etc..

'Spec for you ladies on the quit!

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mylilsecret
Apr 19, 2008, 8:50 pm
I appreciate everyones reply.

It helps me to have other points of view. Specially when I try to write about the topic of addiction. Honestly it's hard to see your mentors, your friends, your group partners fail. Why do some fail? Because we are all human! Everyone makes mistakes. What the purpose of this site is for is so you'll never have to reach that point of failure. Someone will always guide your through.

So yes if someone caves it does help me in my quit but it also proves to me that we're all human. Please find strength before dipping again. Call upon us.

Now how many caves is considered too many?

  • one
  • two
  • three
  • repeat offender
  • could careless

That question depends on what you're really asking.

If you're asking how many times I will allow someone to screw me by signing roll and caving before they lose my support, please read this.

Obviously one is too many, but we need to be serious about our willingness to quit. I think my quit started out like most of my others, but this board really made me think about why I should. The cool aid is good...so here I am.
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I've only seen one girl dipping in my life and she was smoking hot. Scary. I felt kind of bad for her because she was young and I'd hate to see her struggle for decades like the rest of us.
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I personally never thought anything about it. You see I grew up in a rural area and in high school several girls in my class dipped.

I never thought it was ugly in fact I used to bum off of them quite offten because they didn't use as much.

Don't know if that answers your question but my two cents.
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no, .. you guys are doing fine.
I believe some women hide for fear of not being takin' serious or considered ugly. My husband thought I was lying to him when he found my spit cup. I unfortunately had to take a dip in front of him.
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Apr 19, 2008, 8:50 pm
Men .. what are your views of female dippers - ex-dippers? Honesty please!

Society doesn't think of women dippers .. but yet many of us hide for fear we'll be labeled "ugly" which why most never quit or seek help.

As a dipper I thought it was hot if a girl dipped and the strange thing is I never saw an ugly girl dip, only really hot ones. Now I feel bad for anyone who dips.
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I saw a girl (or maybe a guy with really long hair) dipping and opening the door to spit at stoplights today. I'm not gonna lie it looked pretty disgusting. But - that would have been the case for anyone doing that, not just a girl. The funny thing is, I used to be a stoplight door opener spitter myself, so it was good to see if from the other person's perspective. I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore.
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I read something really disturbing couple months ago. I was browsing the net looking at some stuff and came across a report put out by the World Health Organization. There have been reports of females placing spit tobaco in their vagina's, so they can get the affects of nicotine without being seen with chew in their mouths. It also reports that females also would cut themselves between their toes and pack tobaco their out of sight of others. Some fucked up shit.
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Apr 23, 2008, 9:14 pm
I read something really disturbing couple months ago. I was browsing the net looking at some stuff and came across a report put out by the World Health Organization. There have been reports of females placing spit tobaco in their vagina's, so they can get the affects of nicotine without being seen with chew in their mouths. It also reports that females also would cut themselves between their toes and pack tobaco their out of sight of others. Some fucked up shit.

You're kidding. right?
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Turkey
Apr 23, 2008, 9:14 pm
I read something really disturbing couple months ago. I was browsing the net looking at some stuff and came across a report put out by the World Health Organization. There have been reports of females placing spit tobaco in their vagina's, so they can get the affects of nicotine without being seen with chew in their mouths. It also reports that females also would cut themselves between their toes and pack tobaco their out of sight of others. Some fucked up shit.

You're kidding. right?


that is the craziest thing I ever heard. you read this where?
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Turkey
Apr 23, 2008, 9:14 pm
I read something really disturbing couple months ago. I was browsing the net looking at some stuff and came across a report put out by the World Health Organization. There have been reports of females placing spit tobaco in their vagina's, so they can get the affects of nicotine without being seen with chew in their mouths. It also reports that females also would cut themselves between their toes and pack tobaco their out of sight of others. Some fucked up shit.

You're kidding. right?


that is the craziest thing I ever heard. you read this where?

I have read about them doing this with the betel leaves that they suck on over there. They don't want to stain their teeth.
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