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Online Keith0617

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2018, 01:41:09 PM »
PM me your digits or give me a call if you want to talk. Here for you brother.


Can't sleep... but not bc of cravings... more about overthinking symptoms, never were this (noticeable?) In past quits


I think when we make that choice of quitting for the last time our mind knows this. The symptoms become more severe because this is for real.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2018, 09:24:07 AM »


Can't sleep... but not bc of cravings... more about overthinking symptoms, never were this (noticeable?) In past quits


I think when we make that choice of quitting for the last time our mind knows this. The symptoms become more severe because this is for real.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2018, 09:21:34 AM »
12 days... jaw pain still lingers... but getting better slowly... Interesting that mind are body are so divided on this one... in my mind I have no interest in chewing, none whatsoever... I am in around old triggers everyday.. driving.. fishing, working in garage... but there is no desire to chew.... but the jaw and throat soreness is saying otherwise... weird that the mind doesn't want it but the body still shows symptoms...

Its building a great mental base for staying clean forever, once these physical symptoms go away.. and I can be more confident that I am actually in the clear...  I feel like i will born again, with a new lease on life...


Another thing I've done that i find helps..  i have an appointment reminder set in my phone,  8am, every 3 days, that says "you saved 30 bucks"    ....

Can't sleep... but not bc of cravings... more about overthinking symptoms, never were this (noticeable?) In past quits...

Could my mind actually be mind-f#(•!ng my body into over reacting because it kniws this ones for good?

I'm probably the biggest hypochondriac you'll ever meet.

Can you mind me mindfucking your body into symptoms? ABSOLUTELY. It has happened to me MANY times over the years.

Stay the course. I will offer this. Going to see your doctor / dentist and having a good frank conversation about your usage and now your quit will do you a WORLD of a good from a peace of mind standpoint.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2018, 01:16:21 AM »
12 days... jaw pain still lingers... but getting better slowly... Interesting that mind are body are so divided on this one... in my mind I have no interest in chewing, none whatsoever... I am in around old triggers everyday.. driving.. fishing, working in garage... but there is no desire to chew.... but the jaw and throat soreness is saying otherwise... weird that the mind doesn't want it but the body still shows symptoms...

Its building a great mental base for staying clean forever, once these physical symptoms go away.. and I can be more confident that I am actually in the clear...  I feel like i will born again, with a new lease on life...


Another thing I've done that i find helps..  i have an appointment reminder set in my phone,  8am, every 3 days, that says "you saved 30 bucks"    ....

Can't sleep... but not bc of cravings... more about overthinking symptoms, never were this (noticeable?) In past quits...

Could my mind actually be mind-f#(•!ng my body into over reacting because it kniws this ones for good?

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2018, 01:06:01 AM »
12 days... jaw pain still lingers... but getting better slowly... Interesting that mind are body are so divided on this one... in my mind I have no interest in chewing, none whatsoever... I am in around old triggers everyday.. driving.. fishing, working in garage... but there is no desire to chew.... but the jaw and throat soreness is saying otherwise... weird that the mind doesn't want it but the body still shows symptoms...

Its building a great mental base for staying clean forever, once these physical symptoms go away.. and I can be more confident that I am actually in the clear...  I feel like i will born again, with a new lease on life...


Another thing I've done that i find helps..  i have an appointment reminder set in my phone,  8am, every 3 days, that says "you saved 30 bucks"    ....

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2018, 11:11:49 PM »
12 days... jaw pain still lingers... but getting better slowly... Interesting that mind are body are so divided on this one... in my mind I have no interest in chewing, none whatsoever... I am in around old triggers everyday.. driving.. fishing, working in garage... but there is no desire to chew.... but the jaw and throat soreness is saying otherwise... weird that the mind doesn't want it but the body still shows symptoms...

Its building a great mental base for staying clean forever, once these physical symptoms go away.. and I can be more confident that I am actually in the clear...  I feel like i will born again, with a new lease on life...

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2018, 08:37:18 PM »
Risen,

First off you are not alone! My first week was beyond awful. I cried for the first time in front of my wife. I had nights of pure terror and despair. Nic withdraw is brutal.

Secondly, it will get better. I promise you it will. Iím 67 days in myself and itís night and day from my first week. You are quitting one of the hardest drugs to quit however you can quit.

Finally a thing that helped me was cold showers. When I got to low I would literally throw myself into an ice cold shower. There is science showing cold therapy releases endorphins in the brain which promote happiness!


I will try it out for sure. Iíve quit for 3 months before so itís possible. Just seems like the nicotine in these cans get stronger and more gripping than when we started chewing years ago lol.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2018, 08:05:24 PM »
Risen,

First off you are not alone! My first week was beyond awful. I cried for the first time in front of my wife. I had nights of pure terror and despair. Nic withdraw is brutal.

Secondly, it will get better. I promise you it will. Iím 67 days in myself and itís night and day from my first week. You are quitting one of the hardest drugs to quit however you can quit.

Finally a thing that helped me was cold showers. When I got to low I would literally throw myself into an ice cold shower. There is science showing cold therapy releases endorphins in the brain which promote happiness!

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2018, 06:51:00 PM »
Day 3. Super depressed and fatigued. Iíve been dipping a can a day for around 11-12 years. Iím pretty sure thatís around $30,000 plus dollars a year spent on dip. I could have bought something I need like a new car or put a down payment on a house. I want these mood swings to leave so I can get back to my old self. I know it will take time but today when my mind said (literally), ďA dip will fix that,Ē I was able to process a rebuttal that it only puts me back into the same place Iíve been before and doesnít fix anything. Progress of the day was that revelation as I fought temptation. Happy to have this site here.

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Re: What an awesome quote!
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2018, 10:32:15 AM »
"You're playing a game of chicken with a dead plant in a plastic can. If you cave you lost to a dead plant." -- Candoit

Thank you for this!

This. Is. Brilliant.
"Every man dies... not every man really lives." - William Wallace

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9th Floor - 1.08.09 / Comma - 4.18.09 / 11th Floor - 7.27.09 / 12th Floor - 11.04.09 / 13th Floor - 2.12.10 / 14th Floor - 05.23.10 / 15th Floor - 08.31.2010 / 16th Floor - 12.9.10
17th Floor - 3.19.11 / 18th Floor - 6.27.11 / 19th Floor - 10.5.11 / 2K - 1.13.12 / 21st Floor - 4.22.12 / 22nd Floor - 7.31.12 / 23rd Floor - 11.8.12 / 24th Floor - 2.16.13 / 25th Floor - 5.27.13
26th Floor - 9.4.13 / 27th Floor - 12.12.13 / 28th Floor - 3.24.14 / 29th Floor - 7.1.14 / 3K - 10.9.14 / 31st Floor - 1.17.15 / 32nd Floor - 4.27.15 / 33rd Floor - 8.5.15 / 34th Floor - 9.13.15
35th Floor - 2.21.16 / 36th Floor - 5.31.16 / 37th Floor - 9.8.16 / 38th Floor - 12.17.16 / 39th Floor - 3.27.17 / 4K - 7.5.17 / 41st Floor - 10.13.17 / 42nd Floor - 1.21.18 / 43rd Floor - 5.1.18
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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2018, 08:30:02 PM »
21 years can a day. Day 3 cold turkey...
Congrats on Day 3. If you need anything send me a PM. Best decision to quit! ODAAT
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What an awesome quote!
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2018, 09:01:32 AM »
"You're playing a game of chicken with a dead plant in a plastic can. If you cave you lost to a dead plant." -- Candoit

Thank you for this!

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2018, 07:50:04 AM »
21 years can a day. Day 3 cold turkey...

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2018, 08:34:56 PM »
So Iím on Day 5 of this journey and, suffice it to say Iím not a very nice person right now.  Was so tired last night I thought I might just get some sleep...no luck.  Sitting on the couch watching ESPN about 0200 and got pissed off at the couch!  I literally said out loud, ďI hate this damn couch!  Iíve always hated this damn couch!  Canít believe we bought this damn thing!Ē  Why was I pissed at the couch?  I guess it was just the closest thing to me at the time.  I think itís time to embrace the suck and get over myself.

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Re: General Discussion - 2018
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2018, 08:27:14 PM »
This is a real relieve to read...

Ive chewed for about 4 years... max was maybe half a can a day... a bunch of times..

Ive slowed way down this summer... like maybe 7 or 8 tins since June..  but they have been consumed quickly... take 3 or 4 weeks off then crush a can in 2 1/2 days... 

Feeling better about slowing down... but time to quit...  I went guiding fishing... was in the bush for 3 weeks,  I poured my last half can out before I got on the boat...

Got back... damn it, stopped at gas station.. bought a can... got thru half of it by the next morning... will took over and I flushed the rest...

It's been about 8 days.. this time it's for good...  for the last 4 days there's been a soreness in my left jaw, no lumps... no sores in my mouth... difficulty swallowing is maybe a 2/10...

... but I am terrified. Google doesn't help... bit of a cyberchondriac.    I found this website and it's been calming..   I can appreciate what you've said about fearing bad things after you've decided to quit...

Will continue to read more.. but need to get this off my chest...


Already very anxious in general... prone to worry... interviewed for a job.. well dang it if the guy sitting across the table from me... has a section of his jaw missing...   mental health has had a rough week..

I feel you, bro.  Had a place on my gum that was crazy sore and ached for 2 weeks.  Finally told my wife about it (30 yr RN/BSN) and she scared the $&/! out of me!  Google didnít help!  This was all last Wednesday night - went to Dentist yesterday and all appears good.  Either way, Iíve learned enough and worried enough to know Iím done.  18 years of a can a day makes it the hardest thing Iíve ever done, but Iím committed.  Hang in there!